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May 14, 2009


Scott Ferguson

"Since this is a parallel universe, any inconsistencies (and there aren't many) can be explained by that divergence"

Inconsistencies cannot be "explained away" by time travel. You get a lot of hand waving but in the end you are likely left with only arbitrary plot twists.

I agree that the characterizations were enjoyable. However in an alternate reality what the hell does it matter? These aren't the Spock and Kirk from the series, remember, so the producer can do anything to the characters he or she wants. You lose something essential to the series and characters when Uhura and Spock have a romantic relationship. And snogging on duty?

As to divergent time paths, I got the impression that the Federation was intimately familiar with the Romulans - to the point that Uhura was familiar with all three dialects. In the real series the Romulans were a poorly understood if threatening civilization when Kirk-prime encounters them in the Neutral Zone. Would a single Romulan mining ship, apparently staying out of sight - no one in Star Fleet seems to know of Nero's existence - change the time line to the point where Romulans are so familiar? I am not buying that one. It feels like the producers wanted to include a Romulan bad guy and figured all the fans knew about them so it didn't matter.

Gabriel Mckee

There's a difference between "explaining" and "explaining away." But, as I said, there aren't many inconsistencies-- even McCoy's divorce (which I was sure was invented) was intended to be mentioned in a TOS episode (the subplot eventually got cut, but the Okudas site it as de facto canon).

As for what any new characterization matters-- it matters for what comes next. I don't think anything, essential or otherwise, has been lost. The old episodes and movies are still there; you can watch them if you like, and this movie doesn't say they "never happened." (Though NONE of this ever happened, of course...) It's like Marvel's Ultimate line-- the main universe still exists (though new stories will be in mostly non-filmic media); the new playground has a different tone, but is aiming to rescue the spirit from the growing weight of the letter. After all, if any future Trek movies required their audiences to know everything that has gone before to know what's going on now, those audiences would dwindle pretty quickly.

As for the Romulans, first contact occurred a full century before the events of this movie, complete with a big ol' war. That's plenty of room for linguists to learn the dialects. (Though, on screen, they're all speaking English anyway, right?)

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