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September 09, 2008

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Elliot

Revelation 17: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Killer Robot points, please!

Michael N

Don't you think Terminator 3 already puts the apocalyptic story back where it needs to be, though? Inevitability of the battle of Armageddon and whatnot?

Re: Catherine Weaver... we should have known from her first frame on screen that she came around to tear our little world apart, and break our soul apart (also, she's Only Happy When It Rains).

Gabriel Mckee

Maybe, but Terminator 3 was baaaaad. So I think it's ok to excise it from the canon. (The show kind of does that anyway, by totally ignoring its existence.)

Good point about Weaver's name, too.

And am I crazy, or did her accent change halfway through the episode?

David Ellis

"In secularizing their conceptions of the end of the world, such stories (perhaps unknowingly) invert the morality of apocalyptic literature, proposing that the established order must be upheld in the face of destruction."

Are you saying we should WANT apocalypse?!!

:(

Gabriel Mckee

That depends on how you're defining "apocalypse"; it's got a slew of meanings.

Do I think the world should end? No. Do I think nuclear war is good? DEFINITELY no. Do I think that the structures of political power from the Roman Empire to the Bush administration are ultimately destructive and dehumanizing? Yes. Some governments and leaders are better than others (Obama-Biden '08!), but power, by its very nature, corrupts. It hurts those who don't have it, and it hurts those who do.

I don't think I've ever stated it outright, but I'm something of a Christian anarchist. I think an important aspect of Christianity-- and one that's been pretty much ignored since the conversion of Constantine-- is opposition to temporal power in all its forms. The last shall be first, etc.

So what does that mean for apocalypticism? Well, as I've argued here and elsewhere, the real point of Revelation isn't the destruction of chapters 1-20, but the New Jerusalem of chapter 21. There can be a perfect world; there will be a perfect world-- but only if we work to build one outside of the traditional realms of power.

Of course, this is all armchair rebellion. I don't live on a commune; I have a job; I vote. But I think where one's heart is is important, and after all, "my kingdom is not of this world." But that's what I'm talking about when I talk about apocalypticism.

Disobey!

[Some examples:]
My review of Children of Men:
http://sfgospel.typepad.com/sf_gospel/2007/01/the_flight_into.html
My review of the book Wastelands:
http://religiondispatches.org/art306.php
And my essay on The Omen and Left Behind:
http://www.therevealer.org/archives/timely_002544.php

out4blood

I sure hope you meant the Season 2 PREMIERE and not "finale," cuz it would kinda suck if I had, you know, missed the whole season.

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